Ricardo Sousa (1110850) Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) New beta version is available: Ground Radar plugin 1.2.2 beta 3 Bug fixes Edited to include the download link and change list above. Original post below: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, we are looking into implementing TopSky and the ground radar plugins in Portugal vACC. We have an issue with the stands, some of the stands at LPPT overlap in a way that some of them are essentially in the same position, the pictures shows it better The diagonal ones are for wide bodies generally speaking and the straight ones have A321 as critical aircraft type. In the future could the plugin use more info such as the heading or aircraft type to determine which stand is being occupied? In my eyes this layout could be solved by either telling it the heading or by having a minimum wingspan or weight or something to differentiate between narrow and wide body stands. Edited February 1, 2020 by Juha Holopainen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Holopainen Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 Adding the possibility to check for aircraft heading when considering stand occupancy appears to require very little additional code, I'll put that in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bjerke (1339353) Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 I got this screenshot from one of our controllers, and he asked what it meant. https://prnt.sc/purqlk I am not so sure myself, any help on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Kovanen (1379372) Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) @Adrian Bjerke What do you mean? I see nothing weird in the picture. To me it looks just like ground radar always does. If you mean the labels thats just pro mode from settings > display, when an airacft doesnt have their transponder on Edited November 10, 2019 by Christian Kovanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hougaard (1457572) Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hope this is the right forum. In the Ground Radar plugin, how do I save the settings, so I don't have to change the settings every time I load ES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bjerke (1339353) Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jonathan Hougaard said: Hope this is the right forum. In the Ground Radar plugin, how do I save the settings, so I don't have to change the settings every time I load ES? Settings have to be specified in the GRpluginSettings.txt file. Lot's of info about it in the developer guide that is included with the gpplugin download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hougaard (1457572) Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Perfect, worked it out, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Bjerke (1339353) Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Regarding the groundplugin, what is concidered mil, mil cargo, mil heli? In Oslo we have issues with A333, B752/3 (can't not remember exactly, we rarely have them) are issued the military stands instead of the civillan ones. This happends even though the A333 is not defined as military in the GRpluginAircraftInfo.txt file. A332 60.3 58.8 17.4 230000 A A333 60.3 63.6 16.85 230000 A Here is our definitions of military stands: // Military Stands //STAND M1 STAND:ENGM:M1:N060.12.37.184:E011.05.52.867:40 ATYP:C130 USE:T WINGSPAN:41 //STAND M2 STAND:ENGM:M2:N060.12.35.512:E011.05.51.965:40 ATYP:C130 USE:T WINGSPAN:41 //STAND M3 STAND:ENGM:M3:N060.12.33.893:E011.05.51.214:40 ATYP:C130 USE:T WINGSPAN:41 //STAND M5 STAND:ENGM:M5:N060.12.28.935:E011.05.48.136:20 USE:IMT //STAND M6 STAND:ENGM:M6:N060.12.28.516:E011.05.51.085:20 USE:IMT //STAND M7 STAND:ENGM:M7:N060.12.28.121:E011.05.53.898:20 USE:IMT //STAND M8 STAND:ENGM:M8:N060.12.27.675:E011.05.56.837:20 USE:IMT //STAND M9 STAND:ENGM:M9:N060.12.27.296:E011.05.59.782:20 USE:IMT //STAND M10 STAND:ENGM:M10:N060.12.26.897:E011.06.02.702:20 USE:IMT //STAND M20 STAND:ENGM:M20:N060.13.10.030:E011.06.12.205:20 USE:M PRIORITY:-3 Edited December 12, 2019 by Adrian Bjerke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Loxbo (811805) Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Maybe this is the key to why they get sent to the military stands: Quote If automatic stand assignment fails to find a suitable stand, the plugin tries again with some restrictions removed (first the CALLSIGN, then also the NOTCALLSIGN, USE, ADEP, NOTADEP, SCHENGEN, NONSCHENGEN, VIA and NOTVIA restrictions are lifted). Since many of your stands don't have any restrictions in terms of aircraft dimensions, type or WTC, as soon as the "USE" restriction is lifted I suppose any aircraft is likely to get assigned to those stands. Also if my understanding is correct, having both ATYP and wingspan restrictions for the same stand is redundant, as the only aircraft that will ever get assigned to those stands are the C130. If you want to make it so that C130 has to go there, but the stand is also available for aircraft with wingspan up to 41 m, then you should create a duplicate stand with different priority, for example: //STAND M1 STAND:ENGM:M1:N060.12.37.184:E011.05.52.867:40 PRIORITY:+1 ATYP:C130 STAND:ENGM:M1:N060.12.37.184:E011.05.52.867:40 USE:T WINGSPAN:41 This means that firstly stand M1 would be used by C130, but it's also available for any "T" aircraft with wingspan up to 41 m. Looking in the aircraft file the C130 is defined as C by the way, so you would not be able to direct C130s to any stand using the "T" usage category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Holopainen Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Adrian Bjerke said: In Oslo we have issues with A333, B752/3 (can't not remember exactly, we rarely have them) are issued the military stands instead of the civillan ones. Your stands definition file doesn't seem to have any stands those aircraft types could use. The plugin then has to relax some restrictions as Martin wrote in order to be able to assign a stand. The stands file seems to contain some strange definitions, apparently due to misunderstanding the required syntax. For example //STAND 49 STAND:ENGM:49:N060.11.35.090:E011.06.23.520:20 USE:A WTC:J ENGINETYPE:J CODE:E NOTADEP:EN WINGSPAN:61 LENGTH:64 defines the stand to be useable by aircraft of wake turbulence category J whose max aerodrome reference code is E and max wingspan 61m (plus some other limitations). Now there's nothing wrong with specifying both max code and wingspan, but it doesn't really do anything useful as the code is only another way of specifying the wingspan limit (for the plugin, CODE:E is the same as WINGSPAN:64.999). The problem with this stand is that there are no aircraft that can meet all the requirements (there are no WTC J aircraft with wingspan 61m or less). The mistake is probably the WTC line, which should list all the categories allowed, not the maximum (so to allow any WTC, either don't have a WTC line at all, or define "WTC:LMHJ") 3 hours ago, Jonathan Hougaard said: Hmm. When trying that, I get "Error: Unable to create APL (invalud callsign)". Any idea why? That error is caused either by a blank callsign, or a callsign that isn't online. If the callsign is correct, I could use a log file of such a situation so I can troubleshoot. Edited December 12, 2019 by Juha Holopainen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Thornqvist Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Hi. I have a small bug with ES GRplugin. When i open inbound list and get a aircraft that is about to arrive the callsign and all aircraft info gets under the gray area.. Like this: But i don't know how to fix it so if someone mabye know anything about it please tag me. Edited December 18, 2019 by Simon Thornqvist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Holopainen Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 I'll get that fixed for the next version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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